so you have proven what, that your god like and could search google ?<br>everyone knows about what happened with MicroBSD, its old news, yes<br>I admitted there was a problem in that revision of the cvs tree, which we<br>also fixed. Im not running from anything. I will happily admit people make<br>
mistakes. once found, you fix them. You act like this was all blatent and <br>intentional, like i would ever want to claim nightwing as mine. You go ahead<br>and continue misleading the community. No worries, Im not going anywhere<br>
that was what 6+ years ago. get a life dude. There is nothing you can do other<br>then trash my name, which honestly I could care less. your not doing me any harm.<br><br>There was an issue before, it was fixed. We didnt close it down like we were trying to run<br>
Hell if that were the case i would have changed my name or handle a long time ago. Get a life.<br>Your not changing my world at all. You have no affect on me what so ever. so please explain the<br>purpose ? Im sure if it was all that bad you would have sued me by now like you threatened to.<br>
So... sue me.... bring it on. your just trying to cause trouble. And quite honestly your making alot of<br>noise about nothing. You noticed something was wrong I fixed it. It was one file. And i released the<br>source to the files in question, do the community a favor trash me all you like. The facts are simple.<br>
<br>MicroBSD back then was a public project from the beginning and source was always available<br>now i ask, why is there only 1 file that shows a copyright violation of the BSD license?? was it on<br>purpose?? or was it purely an accident, why arent there thousands ??? which when also brought<br>
to our attention the issue was fixed. <br><br>So if you really want to compare, your going to have to do better then that. Please, tell the people the whole<br>trust and not just your one sided view point. ORION, was a private project, with images emailed privately<br>
to 5 people. I never stated it was nightwing, not did I ever state it was ROBIN. and again, its so sad that<br>the facts remain. 1 modified file, and Ive commited what would appear to be the sale of enemy secrets.<br><br>
So please bring it on, post anything and everything about me you can find. Please..... Im not going to <br>apologize to you, I fixed the problem and released the code. you just want to cause trouble, and try to<br>trash my name, go ahead trash away, ill just put ORION back online and let people use what they desire.<br>
its really people like you that give others a bad name. sure I made a mistake, hell who hasnt in their life.<br>go ahead capitolize on it, make a bigger ass out of yourself. Have a nice time trashing on me. Your only<br>
twisting the real truths to benefit who or for what purpose? Are you ashamed of your work ? <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Julio Cesar Puigpinos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jcpuigpinos@gmail.com">jcpuigpinos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Continuing with the case of the violation of the GPLv3 license of the<br>
Nightwing firmware [1], the LUGRo-Mesh Team has continued to<br>
investigate Mr. Scott Kamp and was able to find that it is not the<br>
first time that he make abuses of Copyright.<br>
<br>
Searching in Google, we could find information about the MicroBSD<br>
Fiasco occurred in 2003.<br>
<br>
This fiasco is about the fork of OpenBSD called MicroBSD [2]. In this<br>
case the claim came from Theo de Raadt [3], among others, because of<br>
the failure to respect the Copyright of OpenBSD.<br>
<br>
The MicroBSD project was led by a user with nick Outback Dingo<br>
(<a href="mailto:dingo@microbsd.net">dingo@microbsd.net</a>), called Scott Kamp. Oh coincidence :)<br>
<br>
<br>
References about this fact:<br>
<br>
In the list openbsd-misc you can read e-mails on this fact, some<br>
interesting are:<br>
* <a href="http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=104570206117686&w=2" target="_blank">http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=104570206117686&w=2</a><br>
* <a href="http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=104570906624233&w=2" target="_blank">http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=104570906624233&w=2</a><br>
* <a href="http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=104571023325099&w=2" target="_blank">http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=104571023325099&w=2</a><br>
* <a href="http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=104576154720463&w=2" target="_blank">http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=104576154720463&w=2</a><br>
<br>
>From the last one we rescued the final conclusion of David Riley:<br>
“…I think the idea behind MicroBSD’s work (a fork) was perfectly valid<br>
and acceptable… right up to the point where they took credit for other<br>
peoples’ work.”<br>
<br>
Which applies perfectly to what happened with the Orion Mesh fiasco.<br>
<br>
As proof of the disrespect of the Copyright:<br>
<a href="http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2003-02/1598.html" target="_blank">http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2003-02/1598.html</a><br>
<br>
In all the cases you can continue reading the rest of the e-mails that<br>
are part of the respective threads and learn more about the subject.<br>
<br>
Another fact that came was the closing of the MicroBSD project[4]. The<br>
same thing happened with Orion: remove all references to the project,<br>
remove the code, invent excuses, and say untruths so he can look like<br>
the victim of what happened.<br>
<br>
The behavior of OutBackDingo: not respecting the Copyright, spamming<br>
in forum to praise his "product", giving false excuses, to always try<br>
to be the "victim", and so was then and now. Which shows that the<br>
procedure that this "person" has is common and chronic.<br>
<br>
More information about the MicroBSD fiasco and Scott Kamp (A.K.A.<br>
Outback Dingo or Dingo):<br>
* <a href="http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/21/157222" target="_blank">http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/21/157222</a><br>
* <a href="http://www.osnews.com/comments/2878" target="_blank">http://www.osnews.com/comments/2878</a><br>
* <a href="http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/2002/09/Features39b.html" target="_blank">http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/2002/09/Features39b.html</a><br>
* <a href="http://osdir.com/ml/netbsd.general/2003-02/msg00302.html" target="_blank">http://osdir.com/ml/netbsd.general/2003-02/msg00302.html</a><br>
* <a href="http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200302/microbsd.html" target="_blank">http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200302/microbsd.html</a><br>
<br>
You can also read this email in Portuguese, where other events about<br>
this "person" are commented:<br>
<a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/fugspbr@fugspbr.org/msg06467.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/fugspbr@fugspbr.org/msg06467.html</a><br>
English translation of it:<br>
<a href="http://translate.google.com.ar/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Ffugspbr%40fugspbr.org%2Fmsg06467.html&sl=pt&tl=en&history_state0=es%7Cen%7CTraduccion%2520del%2520mismo%2520al%2520ingles%253A&swap=1" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com.ar/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Ffugspbr%40fugspbr.org%2Fmsg06467.html&sl=pt&tl=en&history_state0=es%7Cen%7CTraduccion%2520del%2520mismo%2520al%2520ingles%253A&swap=1</a><br>
<br>
<br>
The LUGRo-Mesh Team<br>
<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://nightwing.lugro-mesh.org.ar/doc/corriendo_dingos/" target="_blank">http://nightwing.lugro-mesh.org.ar/doc/corriendo_dingos/</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroBSD" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroBSD</a><br>
[3] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_de_Raadt" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_de_Raadt</a><br>
[4] <a href="http://openbsd.monkey.org/misc/200302/msg00647.html" target="_blank">http://openbsd.monkey.org/misc/200302/msg00647.html</a><br>
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